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Post by crystalcat on Sept 26, 2006 15:11:34 GMT -5
I just occurred to me ---
Padme's father was supposed to have some kind of business where he helped the unfortunate - this is gone into in detail in the deleted scene in their house from AOTC (Padme describing the photos on her bedroom wall). I know deleted scenes aren't canon, but since Lucas wrote it originally, it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to use it. Of course her father wouldn't be around anymore, but Pooja or Ryu could have inherited the business from their grandfather. Contact with them (possibly to do with the slavery issue?) without initially knowing they are related could be some kind of catalyst that gets things going?
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Post by PadmeSkywalker on Sept 26, 2006 21:35:47 GMT -5
so many ideas, not every one is going to agree and be able to write what others want......
I haven't finished my story yet, so I think I will focus on that..... looking forward to what you all come up with, so not to sound so fickle... I'm bowing out right now.... sorry, have SOOO much going on at home.
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Post by Feeney on Nov 14, 2006 17:11:21 GMT -5
I completely agree here! YES! THERE WAS A WAY HE COULD HAVE SAVED HER!! - and we need to find it here. I am so exited about this!! Such a wonderful idea! Incidently though - Tatooine was run by the Hutts - neither the empire or the republic at the time had anything to do with it. Palps wasnt interested in it, as it offered very little for him - he kinda left the Hutts to thier own devices. To resurect anakin is not as great a challenge as resurecting Padme in my eyes - due to anakin basically being (potentiolly) the most powerful being alive when he was alive. I think the 'celestial intervention' route in regards to the resurection of padme would cause a problem (although I think that it is the most plausible angle to take). This is purely because of the overtly religious angle. Granted, the Jedi were a religion unto themselves, but Lucus made it clear to make this completely distcinct from religions that we here on earth adhere too(although the links to Buddhism are clearly there, they were / are never defined). When anakin calls Padme and angel - it is unclear as to what an 'angel' means to him - what is an angel in the SW world? I mean i imagine pretty much the same as on this one - after all, an earthing wrote SW!! - i'm just saying, we would have to be clear as to how religious ideals and beliefs were played out in the writing of this. Also, I feel that they would have to be brought ack together in spirit only - I mean once flesh has gone - its gone, right? Any kind of regeneration of a dead body would be macarbe. However - i would dearly love to see them re-united in the flesh if anyone could think of a plausible reason as to how! oooh!! I know! We never actually see Padme get buried! What if she was secretly frozen until a cure could be found for her?! OK, i'm kidding - but just a thought...  |
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Post by crystalcat on Nov 14, 2006 19:13:48 GMT -5
Also, I feel that they would have to be brought ack together in spirit only - I mean once flesh has gone - its gone, right? Any kind of regeneration of a dead body would be macarbe. However - i would dearly love to see them re-united in the flesh if anyone could think of a plausible reason as to how! Well, if you're going by spirit, then it's only Padme we'd have to worry about, since Anakin was resurrected in spirit at the end of ROTJ. But actually, I did mean in the flesh, at least for Anakin. But I don't think it would be macabre - the idea was that he is essentially a Christ-like figure (though one who did not initially pass his temptation), and in the beliefs of the Christian religion, Christ was resurrected in the flesh. So it would be a religion-based (Force-based) resurrection I had in mind. Lucas may have shied away from associating the Force with any earthly religions (smart man), but he did include, by his own admission, archetypes common in religions - the cosmic twins, specifically, and the divine being incarnated as man (which has been a part of other religions than just Christianity). Therefore, I don't think he would be adverse to using such a mechanism to resurrect Anakin, so long as the reasoning behind it wasn't fastened to any specific creed (at least not a modern creed). However, the whole point might be moot, since this thread had been long dead when you saw it.  |
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Post by Annie on Nov 14, 2006 19:47:53 GMT -5
Remember "Skywalker Dynasty?" ASW had her brought back to life by the force, after they had traveled back in time and were able to get her body before it was buried. That may have been one of the biggest stretches in any of the fanfics, but it worked for me because it's a fantasy storyline anyway. It also was ironic that he turned because he thought the dark side could save her, but ultimately it was the good side, the learned Jedi spirits, who saved her. The "resurrection" came off, for me anyway, as glorious and not gross. (also think "Snow White" being awakened from the dead by the handsome prince, wasn't that beautiful?) Now, if she had been decomposed, or a skeleton, yeah, that would have been macabre. HEY wait a minute, if you don't believe in bringing her back, does that mean she's really dead in your story?  Well please write us a new chapter so we'll know! Crystalcat, don't give up on this idea, it's still a good one! |
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Post by Steller's Jay on Nov 15, 2006 1:21:01 GMT -5
I don't want us to give up on this, either. But how do we get it kicked off? We can all throw ideas out there, but we need to decide on something, and get writers lined up, etc.
Should we treat this like a work project (ugh), with a project leader? Whoever is on the 'team' can be assigned (or volunteer for) tasks (writing parts of the story, for instance).
I kind of hate to put you on the spot, crystalcat, but you ought to be the project leader. You are, after all, a published author and I think you are very organized.
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Post by crystalcat on Nov 17, 2006 19:38:30 GMT -5
I kind of hate to put you on the spot, crystalcat, but you ought to be the project leader. You are, after all, a published author and I think you are very organized. Oh, my! I'm so sorry; I don't know what I said to ever give you the impression I was published, but I'm not. I've tried many times to get that way, but so far I haven't had any luck at it. |
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Post by Feeney on Nov 21, 2006 16:00:00 GMT -5
You hit the nail on the head with what i was thinking here. That is what i meant - you just worded it much better! oh I hope its not! It sounds like an awesome idea! - and it could well be done too. i just hope that GL will change his mind. I doubt that will ever happen though  |
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Post by Steller's Jay on Dec 11, 2006 12:58:57 GMT -5
I was thinking that since Lucas says he isn't going to make a third trilogy now, that we all might be able to collaborate on it. Here's my initial pitch: The story is set about 20 - 25 years after the end of ROTJ (why? So that if it's made, the original cast can still be in it). Luke discovers something about his father that makes him think he isn't really dead (yes, even though he burned the body), or at least not permanently dead. He convinces Leia and Han somehow that it's true and they try to figure out how to make it happen (though Leia, at least, has some reservations since she never knew him as anyone other than Darth Vader). Let's also say that the ghost is gone and isn't going to help them. Maybe the ghost never appeared again after that one time. There has to be some kind of fierce opposition to whatever they need to do or this will never last through three episodes. Since it should end happily, the second episode should maybe end on a setback (like ESB). The final episode should end with Anakin and/or Padme's resurrection. I really think Padme should get resurrected too, but it has to make sense with the rest of the story. For Anakin it can be a Chosen One thing - he's a Christlike figure and resurrection is a part of that (not simply the metaphysical resurrection as was shown in ROTJ). I don't want to do three episodes on my own (really not even one); however I would enjoy collaborating on the story itself (as separate from the finished product). By "story" I mean a sort of outline or list of plot points to get from point A to point B, with all points set out initially. After that, the product could be divided up between writers. I know Annie once wanted us to re-do the novelization of ROTS this way, and I'm sorry I couldn't get into that because regardless, it was still going to end badly, even if better written. But I would like to become involved in this. Would anyone else care for a collaboration of this kind? Regarding the part I bolded, above, how about one or more "new" Jedi get wind of what they are trying to do and, regardless of what Luke has told them about his father's turn and redemption, they are against reviving Anakin, fearing he will be Darth Vader again. They could break off from the Order (or force Luke out?), and be the fierce opposition, perhaps along with a sizable portion of the new republic. |
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Post by Steller's Jay on Dec 11, 2006 13:00:19 GMT -5
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Post by crystalcat on Dec 11, 2006 17:22:07 GMT -5
I think then, that makes you (Stellar's Jay) me, and Annie who expressed some interest in working on it (as opposed to seeing what we churn out). If anyone else is, please let us know here (no matter how late you read this post). That is, interested in actually contributing. I think PadmeSkywalker was interested initially, but lost interest when she realized it wasn't going to be an "alternate universe Anakin" story (and please correct me if I'm wrong about that, PadmeSkywalker). I know it could be confused with that since that's basically the theme of this board. So, just to be clear, for any others that might join:
This idea is not an alternate universe Anakin story where Anakin is discovered to still be alive at the end of ROTJ after all. It's meant to be the "third trilogy" that Lucas originally promised, but then decided not to do. That means it accepts as canon everything that happened in the OT and the PT, including Anakin & Padme's deaths. The twist comes because Anakin was presented in the PT as a "Christ-like" figure, and therefore should be able to display other characteristics of that iconic type, such as resurrection. And, because Padme was initially identified by him as an "angel" we might play around with that concept too. But the story will take place in the future of ROTJ, so that it could conceivably be made using all the original actors of both series (plus adding some of its own).
That sounds like a good place to start. I was thinking of setting up a place devoted to brainstorming like this, but thought I'd wait until I finished my story. Also, I'm thinking you might want to postpone work on this until Shattered Mission has been completed. Sound okay?
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Post by Steller's Jay on Dec 11, 2006 18:52:30 GMT -5
Yes, I should finish Shattered Mission before devoting lots of time to this FT (or ST?).
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Post by sonotyourmom on Jan 13, 2007 23:52:53 GMT -5
The final episode should end with Anakin and/or Padme's resurrection. I really think Padme should get resurrected too, but it has to make sense with the rest of the story
what does resurrection mean?
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Post by samantha on Jan 14, 2007 6:48:13 GMT -5
It means being brought back to life, to get the Spirits reunited with their human shells, Dearest.
Kisses,
Sam.
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Post by sonotyourmom on Jan 14, 2007 10:45:47 GMT -5
you mean kinda like what happen on the end of return of the jedi
when anakin and obi and yoda are spirits?
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